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Jackpot denied, banned, playing on sister-in-law's card

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ACDUC wrote:
I hope somebody on this forum follows up on this story. I don't think it is at all fair to deny the $2000 jackpot due to the confusion over whose card was in the slot. It sounds like nobody at the casino offered to hand the money over to either of the two women according to their interpretation of who won the money. If they did that they could let the women fight it out instead of looking like they weren't paying out on a legitimately won jackpot. It makes no sense at all when you remember that you don't have to even use a slot card when you play. If there was no card in use then who would they have paid? The women weren't arguing among themselves about the money. A casino that tries to cheat customers out of legitimate jackpots is a bad place to play.


The problem arose when the attendant was getting the paperwork filled out by the wrong player and it was noticed by security.( It had nothing to do with the player's card being used.) The winner of the jackpot, by definition, is the person who pushes the play button which triggered the win. It is THIS PERSON who is required to claim the win and therefore is responsible for taxes. These ladies switched places, which is against the law, regardless of intent.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope somebody on this forum follows up on this story. I don't think it is at all fair to deny the $2000 jackpot due to the confusion over whose card was in the slot. It sounds like nobody at the casino offered to hand the money over to either of the two women according to their interpretation of who won the money. If they did that they could let the women fight it out instead of looking like they weren't paying out on a legitimately won jackpot. It makes no sense at all when you remember that you don't have to even use a slot card when you play. If there was no card in use then who would they have paid? The women weren't arguing among themselves about the money. A casino that tries to cheat customers out of legitimate jackpots is a bad place to play.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good points, Vegas Vic. However, the jackpot was won fair and square and the casino should determine who gets the $2000 instead of not paying it at all. I have a feeling these ladies would split it anyway. Also, what's with denying the dishes that were not exactly Dresden China? They produce thousands of promotional give-aways so why not just give these regular players their green stamp quality dishes? Management sounds like a mean-spirited bunch who are inept at public relations. Linda


I personally think the casino should award the jackpot, but I'm sure they will handle this one according to past practice just to remain consistent and to avoid setting a precedent for making exceptions. I'm not sure if the laws about switching players has allowances for management discretion.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good points, Vegas Vic. However, the jackpot was won fair and square and the casino should determine who gets the $2000 instead of not paying it at all. I have a feeling these ladies would split it anyway. Also, what's with denying the dishes that were not exactly Dresden China? They produce thousands of promotional give-aways so why not just give these regular players their green stamp quality dishes? Management sounds like a mean-spirited bunch who are inept at public relations. Linda
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MaryP wrote:
It sounds like the casino was looking for an excuse not to pay a jackpot, even though there is no question that it was won. Nobody claimed there was anything wrong with the machine. If there is any real regulation of the casino by the state then the money should be paid and the casino fined. If this is not done then the winners should sue them.


It appears the issue is having the wrong player attempting to claim the jackpot. There are often attempts to avoid tax situations by switching players and the ladies were in error when the wrong person claimed to be the winner. The casino is within their rights to determine who the actual winner is. Whether or not the law says the jackpot is forfeited in this situation is for the courts to decide should the ladies pursue it.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like the casino was looking for an excuse not to pay a jackpot, even though there is no question that it was won. Nobody claimed there was anything wrong with the machine. If there is any real regulation of the casino by the state then the money should be paid and the casino fined. If this is not done then the winners should sue them.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LBoyd wrote:
...As an aside, they should be glad to be banned from this place. Linda


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This seems to be about two people trying to get the gift offered and the jackpot was not only legitimate but should be paid. I have seen spouses play on the same card and I know of a few casino hosts who have said it's okay. There was no question whatsoever about whether the machine was gaffed to get the jackpot. The gaming commission should definitely look into this event and award the 2K if it was legitimately won and it sounds like it was. What if no slot card was inserted? Would any of this matter? The two split prizes which if 100% legal and legitimate. As an aside, they should be glad to be banned from this place. Linda
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vegas Vic wrote:
Perhaps the casino mgt. could have been more considerate in handling the process, but they were entirely correct in holding up the law.


A good point, but if the casino was really concerned about something illegal going on why were the police not called?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laura should have known the jackpot wasn't hers. If it had been a million $$ progressive, would she have plopped down into the seat and claimed that too? Having a card, anyone's card or no card in the machine means nothing when it comes to jackpots. Perhaps the casino mgt. could have been more considerate in handling the process, but they were entirely correct in holding up the law.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:26 pm    Post subject: Jackpot denied, banned, playing on sister-in-law's card Reply with quote

Here's a casino that I think I might ban from any future visits by me...

Casino Pauma, CA

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jul/18/casino-bans-sisters-in-law-for-life-after-they/

Seems like an honest mistake to me. The women thought it was Laura's jackpot because it was her machine. Casino could have told them of their error (they freely admitted what they had done) paid the right person and moved on. Nope, they had to go into Gestapo mode!
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